Monthly Archives: September, 2021

Fear Driven Theology

LDS Boy Scout Abuse Settlement

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will pay $250 million to compensate the thousands of abuse survivors who were abused in Mormon Boy Scout troops by its Scout leaders.

Boy Scouts settlements reached with major insurer, Mormons

The Hartford Agrees to Pay $787M to Settle Boy Scouts Sexual Abuse Claims

Church of Jesus Christ will pay $250M into fund for Boy Scout sexual abuse claims


Matthew 18:6

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Will the settlement be paid using tithing donations?

How much is the Kirton-McConkie law firm being paid to represent the LDS Church in these proceedings?

Do the settlement terms require victims to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA)?

Is this one of those settlements where the LDS Church denies any wrongdoing, and is only settling for some sort of expediency?

Do any past or present Church leaders bear any Command Responsibility for the abuse whether or not they knew it was occurring?

See also: What is gained by cover-ups of sexual abuse?

– Tom Irvine

The Generational Curse of Harsh Rhetoric

Mountain Meadows Massacre Memorial

As I wrote previously, Elder Holland’s musket talk may be a modern version of Sidney Rigdon “Salt Sermon” from June 17, 1838. Rigdon’s sermon was a stern condemnation of Mormon dissenters.

“If the salt have lost its savor, wherewith shall it be salted?
It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.”
Matthew 5:13

(See also Rigdon’s July 4th oration where he took a militant stance against Missourians).


Lindsay Hansen Park came up with a better insight and wrote:

Did you know that from 1851 to 1881, capital punishment in Utah allowed for death by beheading? I found that in my research the other day, working on a Mountain Meadows Massacre timeline.

What a wild time early Utah was.

On this day 164 years ago (September 9, 1857), the Baker/Fancher/Dunlap emigrant party were hiding behind their wagons, chained in a half-circle against a hill, fighting off two days of attacks at the hands of my Mormon ancestors.
They’d soon start running out of water. Seven would die in the initial attacks.

Many of the Mormon men who participated in the murders, were traumatized themselves- though we would hardly, if ever, speak of their trauma and only talk about the good aspects of their character- as if our stories and reminiscences could wash the blood off.

In a few days from now, the 120 emigrants would all be butchered, save about 17 or so tiny children believed to be under the age of 8 (in Mormonism this is the age of accountability and massacre participants believed the children were young enough to not recall accurately the details of watching their families slaughtered).

The story is so ghastly, a true tragedy all around-and still haunts us to this day. The culture of violence, the militia spirit, the persecution complex- all of those things that led to such a horrific event, still linger.

I know the massacre is still such a sore point, but if we truly want to move beyond it, have some sort of reconciliation, we as a people, a culture, a faith, a state- need to do the work to move beyond and outside of the attitudes that allowed for this to happen in the first place.

Sadly, this year has shown us that the spirit of 1857 still exists in the hearts of our people with talks of muskets, persecution complex, government paranoia, us versus them, and on and on we go.

Today, the emigrant train, coming down the Spanish trail and looking for a better life, are on my mind. In trying to understand the conditions that allowed for this, historians repeatedly point to the fiery rhetoric used by church leaders, the political atmosphere and the persecution complex and unprocessed trauma and fear of the faithful.

Though some things have changed (thank goodness for change and progress!), some things have not changed and too many people want to keep it that way. That is a tragedy in and of itself.

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“[Juanita Brooks] probably helped the church come to grips with something that all of us wish had never happened.”

Jeffrey R. Holland
LDS Apostle
Transcript from PBS “The Mormons”
March 4, 2006

Juanita Brooks wrote a book “The Mountain Meadows Massacre.” Elder Delbert L. Stapley sought to excommunicate Brooks for this book, but President David O. McKay denied the excommunication. Reference.

– Tom Irvine

The New Testament Church & Queers

Still thinking about harsh rhetoric in conservative Christian churches. The New Testament Church welcomed queers.

Jesus taught:

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 9:12)

Excellent Article

Eunuchs are mentioned in 2 Kgs. 20:18;  Isa. 39:7;  56:4Jer. 38:7–13;  41:16;  Matt. 19:12Acts 8:27–38

– Tom Irvine

Millenarianism & Hope for a Kinder World

The increasingly wicked trajectory of the world is common theme in LDS general authority talks. In reality, society has improved in some ways and backtracked in others.

Here are some thoughtful observations from Lindsay Hansen Park:

One of the most frustrating things being surrounded daily by Millenarianism, is that you are completely enmeshed in a system of people who depend on the world getting worse to validate their religious ideas.

Too often, progress and advancements for women, POC, lgbt and other marginalized groups, becomes a threat. Things that make the world better and kinder for more people, have to be viewed as wicked- when in fact, they are liberating.

It’s gross and exhausting living around people who depend on a bleak outcome for their own spiritual liberation at the cost of liberation for living, breathing humans that exist in the now.

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I share Lindsay’s hope for a kinder world.

– Tom Irvine

What about Bob? What about Gays?

Some mischievous humor…

Maybe our endearing LGBTQIA+ church friends are a bit like Bob. And maybe stern, uptight church leaders are rather like Dr. Marvin.

– Tom Irvine

SCMC Devotional, September 3, 2021

Kids Leaving Church

LGBTQIA+ souls are treated with more kindness and respect at my workplace than at my church.

– Tom Irvine